Hey SC, Ain`t  gonna make me mad !   At least it caused you to go purchase a "Mr. Feeley".  Your buddy Frank is still breathing, a good thing and maybe he will speak to you again someday after his legs heal. If you can get the Zenmiester over to your bunker, maybe" Das Flicken tailers" will be removed from the endangered list, at least over at his house. I don`t work for beer. At your house, it would take a couple of jugs of "Black Jack" and a Flak jacket. Zen will get you going and I promise not  to ask how.  Zen will confess to me later anyway. He can`t help it. You need to come to our next club meeting. I love to see what people look like with singed facial hair. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

71 superbee.  I'm not sure what a gopher to test with is.  but send em over.  I'm Hungry fro gohers  and my spanish is rusty.  Tonto el hombre

I scored a fuel pump from a guy at work so I feel like a millionaire today.

Its raining and I have not had a chance to screw in the jugs and pinch the valves yet....but I can't wait....  Is it getting hot in here?

Bug tech.  I think the beetle is restorable.  no wrecks or body wrinkles, yes, rusted out floor and other rust places.  the seats are OK.  But the main reason I got it was that it had new tires.  I just  turned 40 and this is my mid life crisis impulse buy.  SC

David says the compression is not there to start the engine. That means a rebuild smelly. You can't make compression when the jugs are worn out.

Don't be so sure that you "can't make compression when the jugs are worn out."   [-X

I've got a 1600 single port pushing Joy's 75 Super Beetle Convertible down the road that I built with badly worn jugs and old pistons.  I just honed the dog poop out of them, put in some new rings and they were "good as new" . . . ok, more like "good as 3/4 worn out" but it ran.  Still runs.  9 years and miles later.  Still runs.  Has a little blow-by.  Always has.  But is runs.  Burns a little oil.  But it runs.  It's been in three differnt cars . . . maybe 4.  I've lost count.  When you've had as many as 20 VWs in the back yard at one time, it all kind'a runs together.  I ran this engine in one of the cars 2 different times.  All of the cars were daily drivers.  I don't have any idea how many miles this engine has on it 'cause two of the cars it was in were Supers.  Super's speedometers don't work.  OK, that's a pretty broad statement and I'm sure there are some that do . . . somewhere.  Most don't.  There is one little plastic gear in there that cracks.  It's a law.  After 30 years the gear must crack.  Very few of them break the law!  Then they either stop working all together, or stop a while, run a while.  Anyway, I don't know how many miles this engine has racked up, but it's got to pushing 90-100 thousand miles.  And it started out with worn out jugs!

Not only were the jugs worn out, but the heads were cracked between the valves.  Cracked so bad Ray Charles could see the cracks.  Took 'em apart, cleaned 'em up, lapped the valves . . . used some lapping compound on top of an old jug and lapped the jug to head sealling surface . . . put 'em back together and bolted 'em on.

The bottom end was a different story.  New heavy duty oil pump.  Used cam, lifters and crank, and rods but they were checked out and showed no sign of wear.  Brand new GERMAN OEM bearings.  The case was checked by an old timer VW mechanic.  He machined the bearings to fit the case instead of cutting the case to fit off the shelf bearings.

Anyway . . . what I'm trying to say here is . . . even if the jugs are worn out it doesn't mean the engine won't run.  And it may have low compression for other reasons anyway.  If a valve is too tight and not closing all the way or if a valve is burnt, that cylinder isn't going to have much compression.  It's like trying to blow up a ballon that has a big hole in it.  Also, if a head is really loose, you can loose a lot of compression between the jug and head.

Don't assume low compression is due to worn out jugs.  My experiance has been that the heads will give you problems LONG before the jugs are too worn out to run.

I'll see if I can get over and help get it running sometime in the next week or so.  I don't think I'll be able to Saturday.  I've GOT to pull the engine on Homer and fix the oil leak.  It's almost quart a day habit now.  I'm spending more for oil than I do for gas.  Not only is it costing a fortune, I think the EPA is looking for me!  When you have a drop of oil hitting the ground every couple of feet your pretty easy to track too!  Anyway, Saturday is not looking to good to get over to the Smelly Cat abode . . . and Sunday is Mother's Day.  So . . . maybe one evening next week? . . .   The Smell Cat Mobil WILL live!  Can't promise people and animals in the immediat area will, but the car will.  SOON.   :thumbs-up:

Who in the heck said anything about "worn out jugs" in SC case? All I said was , after viewing SCs movie, that he had a compression problem. I could hear that. More than likely tight valves or maybe loose heads .
Zen is correct in the fact that a VW will run with "Slap Worn Out Jugs/Pistons" maybe not great, but will run. Ask Anthony, who ran at Rd.Atlanta last season with 4 burned pistons and placed well with his F V.
    71 SB,  Do not quote, analyze,recomend repairs based on what you THOUGHT I said or meant. You are going to have to know what all those "Whirley Things" flopping around in the engine are and what they do and after you re- build about 50 or so, then you might be able to advise someone on repairs accurately. Just listen and learn from the club members around you who have done all this stuff. They are here to help and not to be second guessed or mis-quoted. Understand ?
 :roll:

Thanks all,   Your support and sarcasm is all that keeps me going.

Zen,  Maybe next week you can cast a spell and bring Frankenbeetle alive.. ALIVE!... ITS ALIVE!.. AHAHAHHHAHAH!!!..sorry.. i got carried away. I have some Mothers days stuff  to do to this Weekend also.

 I have a Haynes VW book ( lucky me, it came with the car..BONUS),  and I think it shows how to tighten the head bolts.   One problem is,   I left the book on the roof and it got rained on and I am drying it out.   The valves should be easy.  Today,  I took the carb off.  It was real easy cause the the nut on the the back screw was loose. (Is Vacuum important?) When I opened the little pump on the generator side it was full of dried  pancake syrup.   Who put that in there?  I sent a sample to the Lab.  Do you reckon a clogged up pumper thingy is not condusive to a smooth running gas mobile.  Gave the carb holes a half can of carb spray. (stuff burns when it gets in your eyes and tastes bad also) .   I can't wait to crank it Saturday.  Hope I can sleep tonite.   SC

The only difference between "The Zenmiester" and me is that his Hammer/ Chisel and Bailing Wire  was not approved by VWAG like my set was. :lol:  :lol:

That and factory approved training by VW . . . and nearly a half century of hands on experiance.  The only VW school I've ever been to is the School of Hard Knocks.  Good school.  Teaches you a lot.  I'm majoring in T&E Engineering*.  Mostly the E part.  The only downside to the school is it doesn't have a set curiculum . . . and they give the exams before the lessons.  It also takes forever to graduate.  I'm in my 9th year and have just passed my freshman exams.  It's also a VERY EXPENSIVE school and they don't have finacial aid.  One thing I've figured out though . . . there are usually two or three different teachers for each class and some cost a lot more than others.  If you take the "cheaper" classes you learn more, but then you have to go back and take the same class with the most expensive teacher before you can get credit and move on.  


*(Trial and Error Engineering)

Rods through the side of the case ?  I have done that. Its a snap if you have :
      1- foot long screw driver
      2- 1st and social finger over 6 inchs in length.
      3- The ability to mantain your cool while " fishing" the dropped rod
          nut out of the crankcase.
 I blamed all of this on some "Klutz" who put Std  bearings on a .010  under crank
      :roll: