Zen,  I got a m12 tap and ran the thing in.
I have bottomed out and the bushing aint moving yet
I seem to be boring through the bell housing now.   Do you recomend I get a M13 tap and try that?   Should I spray some oil in there?

Is the bushing spinning on the tap?  That's what it sounds like is going on.  If it's turning with the tap, it won't back out.  Take the handle off the tap and try locking some vice grips on it and see if you can pull it out.

Did you see me in the silver toyota van today when you got stuck at the light at the middle school?

I probably did, but I didn't know it was you.

If the M12 tap threaded into something, there's at least the remains of a bushing in there.  At some point in the past, a bushing could have gotten hot and gaulded to the shaft and spun in the housing . . . or someone could have run it until it wore all the way through the bushing.  Either of those could have slightly enlarged the hole in the tranny . . . that will cause a new bushing to be a little loose.  If the hole in the transaxle is damaged, you can run a starter for an autostick and you don't have to worry about the bushing.  The autostick starter is a little more powerfull too.  The downside is they don't grow on trees and one will set you back a few more $$$ than a standard starter.

I finally got a good look at the starter and the bushing.   It looks  to me like,   the starter is not the kind that uses the bushing.  I enclosed 2 pictures. What do you think?  am I missing something.  the diameter of the starter gear shaft is bigger than the bushing.   help  SC

pictures of starter and bushing

Oh Boy !!    That auto-stick starter was also original to the 181 Thing. Not the best starter Bosch ever made. I had to replace mine from new in about 6 months.  The tranny had a bushing already installed so all I had to do was to bolt on a SR15X bug starter. I have found these Auto-Sticks on other 4 spd bugs.
  Like Zen said that starter was on there for a reason, but maybe that was the only one at hand at the time. I would look REAL close at the hole for the bush. and compare with the new bush you have and see if its anywhere close. I forgot what year we are dealing with here Dud!!  I take it the tranny is IRS ? :roll:

OK a 70 IRS. I must have had a brain fart . Keep your fingers crossed on the bushing hole. I have bored the bushing hole out on a badly wrecked hole and installed a 6 volt to 12 volt transition  brass bushing, but you will have to deal with pulling the engine. If you can do that yourselve you could save a dollar or two. Like Zen stated, Its not so much the cost of the A-S starter,but finding one. If you can find someone who can re-build a Bosch starter and make it work for 6 months I want his name. I guarantee he ain`t in Chattanooga :lol:

The starter is an autostick one and does not need the bushing.   when I took it apart and greased it.. it worked great for a day.  I am going to look at the gear mechenism better and see if it is binding before i get a new one.  I love Money. and hate to waste it if I can rig something.

When  you mentioned "vented", do you mean that the tank needs to be vented or the gas line or something.  I guess if the motor sucks gas for a while it will create negative pressure in the tank and stop gas flowing.

When i 1st  tried this roof tank with out cleaning out the carb the float cut off was letting gas pour in to the engine.  when i finally got it started,  it blew a half gallon of gas on my starter fluid man's leg from  the muffler.  I told Frank he ought to put that cigarette out fast.  thanks for the help and keep it coming  SC

I plan to fix the tank and all once i get this beast  running and stopping,  right now it runs rough and the brake pedal goes to the floor.

Wow Smelly cat won't keep that engine long... I hope he don't blow frank out of town.. LOL..


         Aaron

I feel the love.  Yea, that was a close one.  Its a good thing that most of the flames come out the carburator when it starts.  And on the bright side the muffler is real clean now.   Latest starter update.   I opened the starter up and the middle rotor thing would not come out,  
so I yelled   "By the Powers of Mordar. Release thy rotor".. I gave it a super yank.  Ball bearings exploded out the starter and went bouncing around my drive way. The medical term  "excrement" about sums it up.    I found 9 of the little balls.  I'm going to look in the scrap bin at work for the 10th.  It was pretty crudy in the front of the starter so maybe this will be  "the  ticket".  I'm beginning to look at ways to pay for a new starter. Can I mow anybody's yard?  SC